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Post by Serenity on Oct 3, 2013 23:47:33 GMT
Do dark spirit's ever bend or break the house rules?
And if they did ,what then? how would you handle it, what would you do?
We have to remember dark spirit's are not evil spirit's but they can do things that WA spirit's would not, right?
We know our spirit's can test us, teach us and riddle us.
The simple fact that they are evolve beings ,advance in there knowledge and knowing's.
They all have there own personalities and way of thinking, there morals are also not alway's the same as ours. However when choosing to work with a human' 'us'' they should respect us by respecting the house rules.
What would you do, or how would you handle if one or more of your spirit's or entities broke certain house rules ?
I would really like to hear your opinions my friends!
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Post by PhoenixRising on Oct 4, 2013 1:29:18 GMT
Hello dearie, and I would say yes they sometimes break the rules this is why alot of keepers have to re-home spirits because they do no obey the rules..As for me I usually give my spirits offerings to keep their energies high and let them know I care but if one breaks the rules I take his/her offerings away for set time period...but it also depend on the severity of the rule broken...then its a darker punishments...
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Post by Serenity on Oct 4, 2013 21:19:10 GMT
Hello dearie, and I would say yes they sometimes break the rules this is why alot of keepers have to re-home spirits because they do no obey the rules..As for me I usually give my spirits offerings to keep their energies high and let them know I care but if one breaks the rules I take his/her offerings away for set time period...but it also depend on the severity of the rule broken...then its a darker punishments... I to give my spirit's offerings, from incenses to stones, shells, statues to sometimes food/drink!. It's just I can't tell which one is breaking the rules, for I have many and know ones talking!.  |
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Post by Mr. Kaos & the Neuromasochisms on Oct 5, 2013 19:29:26 GMT
Namaste Serenity,
Regarding DA spirits breaking house rules I suggest a couple of things.
First, look at how you're wording your house rules. Are the house rules specific? e.g "harm none in any manner unless merited; this includes teasing, frightening, and taunting". Have you detailed the importance of each spirit member following the house rules to keep respect, harmony and trust between you and the spirit? Before I list all my house rules after a multiple spirit binding and after a master to spirit binding I always state the following before "In the name of the Goddess, God and Great Spirit I respectfully request and expect that each and every member of my spirit family obey and honor my house rules without exception in order to keep honor, respect, trust, love and harmony between you and I".
Second suggestion: I would appoint a much more powerful spirit to supervise the 'rule breaker'. If you have a master spirit I would encourage you to request that the master spirit keep an eye on the 'rule breaker' to remind the 'rule breaker' of the importance of following house rules. Now with this being said I am assuming that the spirit keeper/master has already had a stern conversation with the 'rule breaker' and reviewed the house rules with the spirit along with the importance of each spirit following the house rules.
Serenity try to keep in mind that a majority of incidents of breaking house rules is due to unclear communication on the spirit keeper's part and a spirit's inexperience deciphering the keepers wishes. Please remember working with extreme DA spirits requires very clear and defined house rules, house rules that are ambiguous in nature could come across as very confusing when working with a spirit unfamiliar with working with human masters/keepers. e.g. "Rule 1 Harm none, Rule 2 Protect me from all enemies"; Very confusing!! Again be specific! Also remember during the master and spirit bonding process the spirit will get a better feel for you and your expectations which with time will help clarify any uncertainty the spirit might have deciphering your wishes.
I should also mention that sometimes a spirit will act out if it was force bound!! (i.e. the spirit never give the conjurer permission to bind it) If you suspect this is the case I would recommend contacting Luke and asking him to conduct a spirit audit on the spirit in question to figure out what is going on and why the spirit is acting out.
In response to PhoenixRising's suggestion. I personal don't incorporate or believe in punishment as a beneficial way to correct unwanted behavior but again this preference is from personal experience working with troubled teens and adults (many with substance abuse issues and personality disorders on top of a severe mental illness).
Serenity if you need a template of house rules I would be happy to provide you with one, just let me know.
Hope this helps ~ OUSIA
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Post by Serenity on Oct 5, 2013 21:27:07 GMT
Namaste Serenity, Regarding DA spirits breaking house rules I suggest a couple of things. First, look at how you're wording your house rules. Are the house rules specific? e.g "harm none in any manner unless merited; this includes teasing, frightening, and taunting". Have you detailed the importance of each spirit member following the house rules to keep respect, harmony and trust between you and the spirit? Before I list all my house rules after a multiple spirit binding and after a master to spirit binding I always state the following before "In the name of the Goddess, God and Great Spirit I respectfully request and expect that each and every member of my spirit family obey and honor my house rules without exception in order to keep honor, respect, trust, love and harmony between you and I". Second suggestion: I would appoint a much more powerful spirit to supervise the 'rule breaker'. If you have a master spirit I would encourage you to request that the master spirit keep an eye on the 'rule breaker' to remind the 'rule breaker' of the importance of following house rules. Now with this being said I am assuming that the spirit keeper/master has already had a stern conversation with the 'rule breaker' and reviewed the house rules with the spirit along with the importance of each spirit following the house rules. Serenity try to keep in mind that a majority of incidents of breaking house rules is due to unclear communication on the spirit keeper's part and a spirit's inexperience deciphering the keepers wishes. Please remember working with extreme DA spirits requires very clear and defined house rules, house rules that are ambiguous in nature could come across as very confusing when working with a spirit unfamiliar with working with human masters/keepers. e.g. "Rule 1 Harm none, Rule 2 Protect me from all enemies"; Very confusing!! Again be specific! Also remember during the master and spirit bonding process the spirit will get a better feel for you and your expectations which with time will help clarify any uncertainty the spirit might have deciphering your wishes. I should also mention that sometimes a spirit will act out if it was force bound!! (i.e. the spirit never give the conjurer permission to bind it) If you suspect this is the case I would recommend contacting Luke and asking him to conduct a spirit audit on the spirit in question to figure out what is going on and why the spirit is acting out. In response to PhoenixRising's suggestion. I personal don't incorporate or believe in punishment as a beneficial way to correct unwanted behavior but again this preference is from personal experience working with troubled teens and adults (many with substance abuse issues and personality disorders on top of a severe mental illness). Serenity if you need a template of house rules I would be happy to provide you with one, just let me know. Hope this helps ~ OUSIA Hi OUSIA, I must say for the most part my spirit family follow my house rules!. I have a rather large family, of over 2000 spirit's and all but 2 come from Luke!. I have both light and dark spirit's in my keep. All in whom I love dearly and know that they care for me too!.So as to any being force bound,I would think not. For the most part I happen to think it all might be my emotions all this past year. I have been very depressed and sad,negative too. I do have house rules and for the most part they are very well respected. I treat my spirit's family,exactly that as family/friends my loved ones for that matter. |
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Post by Mr. Kaos & the Neuromasochisms on Oct 5, 2013 23:29:57 GMT
Namaste Serenity,
Regarding house rules there should be 100% compliance only. Could you please explain what you mean when you say "I do have house rules and for the most part they are very well respected"? When are they not respected? What rule is getting broken?
Regarding your depression and bouts with sadness and negativity I am sorry to hear that! Suggestions that have helped me with depression: Take a good look at your diet, is there a lot of processed foods, trans fats, caffeine, fried foods, high in sugar foods, high in fat foods, high in sodium foods? By eating much more organic (unprocessed) meals and cutting out sugars and adding more fiber I've noticed a considerable change in my mood and positivity.
Also are you exercising at least 30 minutes daily? Exercising helps release endorphins which helps alleviates mood and rids the body of toxins that can cause mood instability or poor mood! If this is something you have been battling with for years you might consider seeking professional help to help get you out of this rut. If I can be of any assistance please let me know!
OUSIA
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Post by Serenity on Oct 7, 2013 9:42:34 GMT
Hi OUSIA, where do I start, I've been very depressed, due to the last year has been the hardest I have ever endure.
Last September my 33 year old sister die in our home in my fathers, her partners and my arms.
Her body just shut down, the paramedic tried to revive her, numerous times, I even preform C.P.R on her.
They rush her to the hospital and we follow not far behind, they sat us in a private room and told us that they could not revive her.
That night a part of me die with her, we were all in shock.
Only 2 day's later we got a phone call telling us what caused her death.
The autopsy reveal she had advance stage 4 lung, brain and ovarian cancer, that night she suffered a major heart attack.
The shock was no one even knew she had ''CANCER''. You see I ,my sister and her boyfriend all still live with my parents, we know everything that goes on with each other.
My sister did have a very rare auto-immune disorder, that was being treated. She was seeing our family doctor regularly and even her family doctor was shock.
There also has been 2 other family death. We even had to put to sleep our beloved golden retriever.
This is why I am depressed. I miss my sister everyday, the longest we have ever been apart was 1 month, in our whole lives. She was my best-friend.
Me and my family have had countless struggle, my dad has been hospitalized numerous times.
My uncle also lives at home and he's in cancer remission, he had lung, throat and brain cancer.
My baby brother moved back in, a month after my sister pass-away, while my sister boyfriend/spouse move back home.
Then so much more, but I would rather not say here.
I'm starting to heal, but got along way to go!
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Post by nightlord22 on Oct 30, 2013 2:26:09 GMT
Hiya Serenity, I had a similar experience happen to me July 18th of last year. A girl I was veery close with died from injuries sustained in a car roll-over accident. She was only 18. And I later found out she ( Her soul) is one of my 3 closest soul family members. Her and I always had an extraordinarily strong telepathic and empathic connection, even now when she is not physically here. I feel your pain, and I am sorry. p.s. one of my Soul Daughter's names is Serenity I call her Reenie for short;)
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